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Apr 30, 2005 12:02:33 GMT -5
Post by mrrefferee on Apr 30, 2005 12:02:33 GMT -5
I dont mean to start any milton/chattahoochee fires, i dont care for either team specifially though they are both good programs, but...
I agree completley. A coach asking for a stick check for an opposing team's player is not only legal, its a smart move. If that player had a legal stick, there is no loss for him or to the team. A stick check causes no problems unless a player has an illegal stick, and if he does, he should be penalized for having one. How you consider that unclassy is ridiculous. The only way you would see that as unfair is that the opposing player had an illegal stick, and you were bitter that he got caught for it.
Seriously, think about what you are saying. There is no fault in a coach if he believes another player is cheating and asking for a fully legal part of the game, a stick check, that bothers no one if the stick is legal.
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Apr 30, 2005 12:10:45 GMT -5
Post by XMan on Apr 30, 2005 12:10:45 GMT -5
A coach asking for a stick check for an opposing team's player is not only legal, its a smart move. Totally Mrref's right - it's completely within the perogatives of a coach to ask for a stick check on a player who might be playing with an illegal stick. If the stick's legal, no problem. But if it's NOT - man, that's 3 full minutes of non-releasable. But "unclassy" ?? Hardly.
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Apr 30, 2005 12:11:05 GMT -5
Post by southernlax on Apr 30, 2005 12:11:05 GMT -5
haha... and the stick was actually illegal! obviously an extremely bitter milton player, was it your stick that was illegal big guy?
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Apr 30, 2005 13:20:26 GMT -5
Post by USCLAX on Apr 30, 2005 13:20:26 GMT -5
The stick that was called illegal wasn't illegal after all. The ref claimed that the stick was too narrow at the top, which is the manufacturing problem. After the game, Jerome's stick was measured again and it was legal. That ref has made that same call to many teams this season and was asked not to participate in the playoffs. It was bush b/c we couldve done the same thing to fink and other hoochee players that were using the evo pro, but we did not, b/c we like to play teams 6 vs 6. While this action is legal, it shouldnt be called on the same player just b/c he can do things that a normal player can't do, even with another players stick. And from talking to my friends on the hocchee team, i have since learned that part of the game plan was to limit his effectiveness any way possible, stick checks being one was. I'm the first one to admit that hooch took it to us, but milton was able to come 30 seconds away from a win, with out the best midfileder in the state in the second half. But congrats hooch and we'll see you next year at milton. on the Arnold hit- Wesley missed 3 days of school bed ridden with a neck brace on the entire time-so much for having his wind knocked out.
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Apr 30, 2005 13:28:33 GMT -5
Post by HoochLax23 on Apr 30, 2005 13:28:33 GMT -5
finks stick was checked, and we got a penalty for it in that game...he played the rest of the game with his backup stick, since you cant play with an illegal stick after its been declared illegal.
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Apr 30, 2005 13:38:05 GMT -5
Post by LaxMiddie32 on Apr 30, 2005 13:38:05 GMT -5
Woah, wait a second, the evo pro thing happened to you guys too? We had a revo pro (same exact shape if you didnt know) called illegal during our woodward game. I have an evo pro that was new and unwarped so I lined the two heads up, sure enough his was unwarped as well. Georgia officiating for you....
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Apr 30, 2005 14:07:07 GMT -5
Post by tigger1 on Apr 30, 2005 14:07:07 GMT -5
usclax ... you really dont have an argument.
If the stick checked was called illegal during the game, and then ruled legal later on, thats Bad Officiating.
If a coach calls for a stick check during a game, its a legal move, and a smart one if he suspects an illegal stick, which is an unfair advantage for the player (even though in this game, the stick was legal)
Subsequently, your team was victim of bad officiating, but dont blame it on another coach and calling him unclassy for playing by the rules...
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Apr 30, 2005 14:33:50 GMT -5
Post by lassiter9 on Apr 30, 2005 14:33:50 GMT -5
one time one of our middies, got a call on his evo pro, but the ref gave him a warniing, iim guessing because he was fammilliar problem
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May 1, 2005 11:49:23 GMT -5
Post by havernaf on May 1, 2005 11:49:23 GMT -5
the problem with the evos and revo pros is that they are manufactured to be legal, exactly, they come shipped at 6 1/2 up top. so it is your own fault if you purchase this stick not knowing this and make no attempts to keep your stick legal. also stick may very well become warped during a game, be put on the table and not used and become unwarped during the course of its sitting. ive seen it happen multiple times. but id say that if an opposing coach knew that he was using an illegal stick it was a good coaching move. however on the note of bad officiating. i completely agree with you on that case. heres the problem, Ga is severly lacking in the department of Refs. so they cant get rid of the ones that are terrible. if you all know anyone who is knowledgable in the sport of lacrosse that could ref but chooses not to please appeal to him for the sake of GA lacrosse.
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May 1, 2005 12:13:17 GMT -5
Post by LaxMiddie32 on May 1, 2005 12:13:17 GMT -5
Well, here has always been my problem with the Evo/Revo pros-
Assuming mine was not warped when I got it, Warrior make it 6.5 at the very top, then it flares down to somewhere in the area of 6.3, then there is a stringing ridge to protect your sidewalls on the very back of the head that measures 6.5. Completely throwing out the warpage factor (which is why most of these heads are being called illegal), you can still get a ref that measures it and rules it illegal because factoring in the flared section, part of your head is less than 6.5 at its widest point. I know most refs usually just measure from the top of the head, but I really dont like having a head thats legality comes down to a judgement call.
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